From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 15:40:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC23016A420 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E98143D45 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id jA4FeK38003080; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id jA4FeKu2003079; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:40:20 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200511041540.jA4FeKu2003079@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: nalists@scls.lib.wi.us (Greg Barniskis) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:40:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <436AA389.9010803@scls.lib.wi.us> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:40:23 -0000 > > > it would be interesting to learn the total # of "core" members, and how > > the vote went, yay and nay, and whether, it at all, the "core" is > > hearing the message which seems to be emanating from the "non-core".. > > Sigh. "*the message*"? Mixed messages at best. Some like it. A few > more don't. A number really, really don't like it at all. Many, > many, many, many, many more are completely silent on the topic, > meaning they really don't give a flying /dev/null. > > > IOW, can the decision be reversed? is it being considered? It is not like a governmental edict condemning someone to death or to pay higher taxes was made. to 'reverse' it, just use what you want on you systems and ignore the decorations on the FreeBSD web site. > If the process gets reversed based on the fervent outcry of a small > number of people who think they have somehow been disenfranchised, > that would be just as silly as the oft-repeated "this whole thing > was done to please offended right-wingers" argument. > > There was a process (seems to me it was a fair process), it's over, > and some factions lost, particularly the "don't change anything" > faction. By gosh and gee willikers, what a surprise. > > Seems to me like those who are up in arms over this: > (a) had every chance to participate in the process I had every opportunity to participate. I did make a couple of minor comments saying roughly that it isn't worth all the freaking out worry people were putting in to it. > (b) did not participate in the process except to heartily denounce > the very existence of the process and its goal I did a couple of idle sketches, but am such a lousy drawer that even I could see that they were worthless. So, I just hoped other more talented folk would come up with something reasonable. I suspect that 99 44/100 of those who didn't submit anything were in about the same place. > (c) even now outright refuse to go and be part of the advocacy@ > community where this discussion is germane to that list charter I used to be subsrcibed to the advocacy list, but really didn't need the constant barrage of flames about whether FreeBSD or Linux did the most damage to Microsloth and the endless psuedo-legalistic arguments from self-appointed psuedo-experts. There is too much dross to discard to get to any metal over there. > (d) need a real big mop for all the spilled milk and tears I don't really think it is all that important and am not crying. I am far more interested in the quality of the product and in that, with small occasional glitches, am generally impressed and pleased. But, since the supposed aim was to come up with a real _logo_ because Beastie was really just a _mascot_, I think this missed the mark and just ended up with a stylized additional _mascot_ from which it might be fun to make some more FreeBSD toys. It should appeal nicely to the kid and anim crowd. But, it didn't manage to result in a real _logo_ being adopted. Oh well,,,, > > Biggest. Bike. Shed. Ever. > I looked that up once, but have not gotten used to the slang application. It always reminds me of the big covered bicycle parking garages in Japan. You rent a slot monthly or yearly, just like those condemned to living in one of the big cities in the USA might rent a parking space for their car. They hold hundreds and even thousands of bikes. Kind of impressive. ////jerry > -- > Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator > South Central Library System (SCLS) > Library Interchange Network (LINK) > , (608) 266-6348 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >