From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 25 15:11:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEFB16A420 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13D043D4C for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:11:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2PF9wU9096874; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:10:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <44255D39.2060507@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:09:45 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060127 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim References: <44255554.6080200@cogeco.ca> In-Reply-To: <44255554.6080200@cogeco.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Not an easy install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:11:42 -0000 Tim wrote: > Why couldn't you guys make a install easy instead of this > and that, ok I am a newbie and it should be easy, I have > installed Ubuntu, it was like a dream, smooth as silk, > Fedora pretty much the same FreeBSD, its a nitemare > if you have never done it, I am now reloading windows > and then putting back Ubuntu, unless someone over > there can make it simple even for me. > > > Tim Stevens > 1. Troll, I command thee, begone! :-D 2. "FreeBSD *is* user-friendly; it's just picky about who those friends are...." (might read that as "newbs are expected to RTF*M like the rest of us....") ;-) Seriously, Tim, this is an issue that's *not* going to be resolved any time soon. There are plenty of reasons why, and some of them are good (not to mention, in the words of the immortal JKH, 'libncurses makes the baby Jesus cry') and some aren't. If you want FreeBSD with a GUI installer and KDE (I don't, necessarily), head on over to www.desktopbsd.org. Some of us are O.K. with our "stone knives and bearskins", as long as they work. As for you, install what you want. That's what "free", as in "FreeBSD", is really about. My $0.02, and I'm out of change on this one.... Kevin Kinsey *Friendly! Read the **friendly** manual!! P.S. Oh, golly; I forgot the part about "become a committer and fix it yourself." But, that's really not necessary, I don't think.... P.P.S. Anyone got a procmail recipe for sysinstall flames?