From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 2 13: 6:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A51237B4CF for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from knapp ([62.252.208.166]) by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001102210617.UVHX10340.mta5-svc.virgin.net@knapp>; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:06:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000301c0450f$7ed09a00$a6d0fc3e@knapp> From: "Anthony J Knapp" To: "Rino Mardo" , "David Talkington" Cc: References: <006c01c043d8$89bac6d0$0204010a@atg.altayer.com> Subject: Re: beginners with bsd Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:41:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: Rino Mardo To: David Talkington ; Anthony J Knapp Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 7:42 AM Subject: Re: beginners with bsd > Yes clear, thorough documentation is what attracted me and kept using > FreeBSD (in spite of that ata0-master timeout I'm still having while doing > make build -- sigh!). > > With Linux, I feel it's becoming the M$ of the *NIX world as GOOEY here and > there are making the kernel bloated. I guess it's just me coming from the > old school of *NIX. > > My 2cents. > > > -> who watches the watchmen? > > Key fingerprint - E619 726E 3815 7A48 EAC7 E49F DF93 4E33 B069 0883 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Talkington" > To: "Anthony J Knapp" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 11:03 AM > Subject: Re: beginners with bsd > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > Tony - > > > > In response to others who've answered, I'd like to add that (in my > > experience) if you're interested in some flavor of Unix and friends, > > FreeBSD presents to a newcomer at least one advantage that I don't > > think Linux can match: clear, thorough documentation. I was quite > > impressed by the readability and depth (often conflicting goals!) of > > Greg Lehey's book. I learned Linux by chasing information on the > > 'net, but if I was a newbie all over again, I'm pretty sure that with > > a book like Greg's, I'd have had a much easier time with FreeBSD than > > I had with Linux. > > > > I use Red Hat on my laptop, and I like it just fine, but it's a moving > > target. If you want to learn computing the right way, you can't do > > better than here ... if you're persistent and willing to read, you'll > > do fine. The points about device support are certainly valid, > > however. Cutting-edge hardware support, which many Linux distributions > > have, really isn't one of FreeBSD's strengths. > > > > Whatever you decide, have fun! > > - -d > > > > - -- > > David Talkington > > Community Networking Initiative > > dtalk@prairienet.org > > 217-244-1962 > > > > PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc > > > > Anthony J Knapp wrote: > > > > >Help, please! > > > > > >As a newcomer to any kind of computing, and as one who'd like to get away > from Windows, what is the easiest way to start with Freebsd? > > > > > >I've tried to trace a plain English book on the subject without success. > > > > > >Is Freebsd suitable for beginners? Could I run the normal > wordprocessing, database, and spreadsheet applications with it? > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Tony Knapp (membership no 20001001) > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGP 6.5.8 > > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > > > > iQEVAwUBOf/ANb1ZYOtSwT+tAQGevQgA0w8hGMfzT/+fQUuQwwwsz5FNbRGeczvD > > tfmQtokr/egknOtHQIB/kXoptqzF18VS5RmRN5YtXnFl5jJ9J80TkMTGiFQORK/c > > TDeXtRyCozkzwiPM5kzAiCIHR3fDWYHIzMnePLqcOiMY+BaTM6Kw/vfLOOf/yvqv > > 5N0fzsjt6uBANNv/Lb0+52mZn5VuYX194nKJo9FLwpbXGT7NPhFXCmZkHgPNPu57 > > eP8078DbH9EgPw65l5PDv36M5G7g+oAGGheromiDy4WwAExnsXQv0FDcPO0uVqaz > > 6qZ6KsDLu4nDtdhqeG/V+ix4nwwBsWGzbSPkzD/Uh2vhKRq1vdwfmQ== > > =veLj > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > Rino and David, Many many thanks for your replies to my e-mail. I'll get the book by Lehey and see how I get on. If nothing else it will keep my brain active in my retirement. No doubt I'll have to post questions about things I don't understand so you'll probably see my name up here in the future with more frequency than you actually desire! Thanks again, Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message