From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 11 07:25:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F0A91A; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041979DB; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA378A521; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1B7PEsm085789; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:25:15 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Steve Kargl Subject: Re: 7+ days of dogfood In-reply-to: <20130210173150.GA77296@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20130210000723.GA73630@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <5117A319.60804@passap.ru> <20130210164424.GA77092@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20130210173150.GA77296@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:25:14 +0000 Message-ID: <85788.1360567514@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: Adrian Chadd , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Boris Samorodov X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:25:18 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -------- In message <20130210173150.GA77296@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Steve Kargl w rites: >> Have you submitted bugs? :) > >No. At the time, I was more concerned with returning my laptop >to some functioning form [...] Steve, First a hat-tip for even doing this in the first place, if more committers ran -current, -current would work better. Second, I wrote src/tools/tools/sysbuild to specifically address the issue of being able to work, while running -current. sysbuild allows you to build your system into an empty partition while you're working (= good test of scheduler btw), then test boot the new system, and fall back to the old if it caused too much trouble. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.