From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 1 16:10:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from www.idiotswitch.org (cr575310-a.shprd1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.185.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C271A14D9D for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:10:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dark@idiotswitch.org) Received: from a11.idiotswitch.org (a11.idiotswitch.org [10.0.0.11]) by www.idiotswitch.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64943A4; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:12:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Rod Taylor To: Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, I just couldn't let this go by... Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:05:26 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <4.2.0.58.19990901152642.047b0250@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99090119093901.11076@a11.idiotswitch.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm mildly interested in what you consider these to be. Can we fix these problems? Are they problems, or choices with long term payoffs rather than immediate. Does FreeBSD want a larger userbase, afterall... With the good, comes the bad. Rather than defending your yet to be shared thoughts. Please discuss, with me if noone else, just what we can do. And, I suggest you ignore the overly negative feedback, and consider only the constructive feedback. Perhaps one of the user groups could use your thoughts to help spread it throughout their area as a test base. If it accomplishes what is wanted, then the project is expanded. If not, it's confined to that area or stopped should the results be negative. I make the assumption your plan is feasible. On Wed, 01 Sep 1999, Brett Glass wrote: > Advocacy is more than just being a "booster" or shouting "Rah! Rah!" on the > sidelines. It also involves identifying problems and solving them. It seems > as if some of the members of this list would rather shoot the messenger than > deal with FreeBSD's problems in the area of marketing and evangelism. Recognition > of the problem -- which even according to David's numbers is growing > exponentially -- is necessary before right action can be taken. -- Justice is incidental to law and order. -J. Edgar Hoover (contributed by Chris Johnston) -- Rod Taylor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message