From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:52:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAE416A4E1 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB3443D5F for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:52:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74JqZ36024712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:52:40 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> <87vep84cly.fsf@geekbox.foldfarm.foo> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:52:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: (freminlins@gmail.com's message of "Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:26:23 +0100") Message-ID: <87r6zwnurg.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:52:45 -0000 Freminlins writes: > On 04/08/06, Joseph Le-Phan wrote: > >> Personally, it'd be fantastic if mc was slated for inclusion. It's an >> absolute necessary install once I get a system up and running. > > > The thing is, once you go down this route it won't stop. Other people regard > bash, or lsof, or vim, or wget as an "absolute necessary install". bash gets > put on all our boxes because three of my colleagues prefer it. For them it > is essential - they won't use csh. I regard Tcl as an "absolute necessary > install" as that is my chosen scripting language. I put it on every box I > use (even Windows). And that's the problem. As I personally don't use mc > it's inclusion would be wasted on me. And if Tcl was included it would be > wasted on many (most!) other people. > > I have to say I absolutely enjoy using FreeBSD, more so than any other OS. > And part of that joy comes from the few minutes installation for the base > OS. > And a lot of that joy comes from the ports system. > I used to use Redhat. My first outing with that was version 4.2. Then as > time went on it no longer fitted on a single CD (after 6.2 IIRC.) And the > clutter and junk it installed (presumably because someone thought it was > essential or useful) was just appalling. > Here is a little bit OT. You may want to try Gentoo Linux, which I'm using for my desktop because FreeBSD is not happy with some of the hardwares. It's base system is completely clean and you might even uninstall the system packages. > IMHO the base install is best left lean like it is now - the only additions > should provide additional OS functionality, not user functionality. > Agree. > Joseph Le-Phan [GPG key: 292E09A0] > > > > My 2 pence. > Frem. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Xiao-Yong