From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 29 22:58:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5811065695 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-22.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-22.bluehost.com [69.89.21.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB05C8FC22 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1359 invoked by uid 0); 29 Dec 2009 22:58:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2009 22:58:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=fY+/MbQU7gbmBwgjPAAT4GJm2l52bYVX8jRgLq7GuZQKeBA1gSMDUAhnCkN6SqSjueyK4fU3N15oeww2DCKgdUjqlPI9I8ZV1Qtd+T1guZvdjMa3C4bUxQsP3qo4rj2H; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NPl1j-0001Rh-32 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:58:56 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:51:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:51:23 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091229225123.GB6542@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <541b7a870912150733m4bc34148j98790a6142d4521c@mail.gmail.com> <20091223103226.GC26235@guilt.hydra> <20091223235651.GA31167@guilt.hydra> <87oclhzvz4.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20091229203901.GD25393@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091229203901.GD25393@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: why BSDs got no love (and why security gets no love) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:58:57 -0000 --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:39:01PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Tue 29 Dec 2009 at 06:38:23 PST Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:56:51 -0700, Chad Perrin =20 > >wrote: > >>Update: > >> > >>I confirmed that the scheduled publication date for my article will be > >>Tuesday the 29th. > > > >It's up at http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=3D2888 > > >=20 > Well done, Chad! Thanks! >=20 > One question, however. Are we prepared to back up the claim that the > "sexy" bits of PC-BSD are the least secure? Your argument depends on > that claim, since it's also implied in your description of development > team's priorities. Define "we". As I'm not a core developer for FreeBSD, nor anyone in a position of official representation of either the OS development project or the Foundation, my statements in the article should not be taken as necessarily indicative of anyone's opinions but my own. The claim about the "sexy" bits of PC-BSD is based on my experience with tarted-up GUIs and "feature-rich" software. It is intended as a generalization rather than a categorical statement of absolute truth. All stuffy pedantry of mine aside, though, if you want to expand on your concerns, I'd be happy to read about them. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAks6h+sACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXGPgCgoPptAn5CMFLPuf0rmaIYK/KO oKcAn2AvA+/R+q3hXxlrmH73RvtSzQo9 =PGWA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW--