From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 07:53:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16032 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16026 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11635; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:53:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA12276; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:53:32 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:53:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199808061453.IAA12276@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Nate Williams , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: References: <199808061421.IAA12098@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >From the license I signed: > Sun grants to Licensee the royalty-free right to distribute binary code > developed and compiled from the Licensed Software in accordance with Subsection > 1.1 above ("Derived Binaries"), provided that: (i) Derived Binaries are not > integrated, bundled, combined or associated in any way with a product, (ii) > there is no charge associated with such distribution, (iii) Derived Binaries are > fully compatible with the then-current version of the publicly available test > suite supplied by Sun which verifies Java compatibility ("JavaTest Suite") > and must remain compatible with subsequent versions of the JavaTest Suites and > upgraded Licensed Software, and (iv) Derived Binaries are distributed subject to > a license agreement containing terms and conditions at least as protective of > Sun as those included in the binary code license used by Sun for internet > distribution of the Java binaries. In the event that Licensee desires that such > distribution be fee-based, or be associated with a product, Licensee must > execute a commercial license agreement with Sun. So far so good. Note the 'for internet distribution'. > Are we considering the CD either (a) a product or (b) charging for it? It's a product for Walnut Creek. Matter of fact, the CD *is* the only product from WC. > I don't consider that we are doing either. If JDK can be place in a > book, and the book can be charged for, why can't we distribute them? As a matter of fact, you can't in fact put the JDK on a CD and distribute it with a book. > And we've been distributing jdk102 on CD's for a while. I checked my > 2.2.5-RELEASE CD's. Look again. The only thing in the package is the class files. The actual JDK distribution isn't in there. > On another matter. Since I was reading the source license, what about this > clause: > > "Licensee shall not export, re-export or transfer, whether directly or > indirectly, Licensed Software or Derived Binaries or direct products thereof, to > any person or company who is a legal resident or is controlled by a > legal resident of any proscribed country listed in the U.S. Export > Administration Regulations (or any equivalent thereof) unless properly > authorized by the U.S. Government." > > Are we "exporting" in a legal sense? That's a sticky matter best left up to lawyers. Due to a legal precedence set by a lawyer in S.F., Walnut Creek's lawyers have deemed it 'OK' to distribute some of the products deemed illegal by the export laws, and to be honest I haven't cared much about it. Maybe I should???? Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message