From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 8 16:47:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9131E1061F82 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C2E68599F for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1533746823; x=1536338823; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=M/xwuBcHagogSuRuvQJte4cE/mTVE7i3JRG/rQQs1lE=; b=VfxpT1nnGywxchrZZGlkJClIbdSrj/SwTIUhti7vcIUK4RaqdfmME3sv0bHQdRPoiRvJ39bcnKz1B9ElG+WIoB6lgvkdOkpuJRYmodmoGmbCP3o6S2y+RAyRouomqHcYBoLbMkNTfGpeWEyqT+mRcPr9BjwPE+OroBPKlCR4dyY= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOTUwMDAwMDE3MWJlMWIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:46:52 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:46:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fnRbn-0001ew-05; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:46:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 17:46:51 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-Id: <20180808174651.5712b734d2bf158d8442a14c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20180808163722.GA67368@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180731195608.40cee639.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180801024324.GA20419@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180801165950.6bb77eabf97c862866d13ecf@sohara.org> <20180808161156.GA66626@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180808172413.9759288eaa75f6a8024417c8@sohara.org> <20180808163722.GA67368@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:47:03 -0000 On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 23:37:22 +0700 Victor Sudakov wrote: > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > > > No, this is not the way it works on Linux. Linux users don't run > > > startx from a text session, nor do they switch between GUI sessions > > > with Ctrl-Alt-Fn. They click "Switch user" and the graphical login > > > screen appears where you can get authenticated. > > > > You can use startx and Ctrl-Alt-Fn in Linux to do this, at least > > you could last time I used Linux and X. > > You can but nobody does because it's inconvenient and contraintuitive > for the majority of users. I suspect I'm in a minority on FreeBSD too, but I find it handier. > Besides it's insecure unless you enable some X screen locking > mechanism and start your X session with something like "startx & && exit" I use startx & logout. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/