From owner-freebsd-current Mon Dec 9 5:24: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D5937B401 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 05:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9151843EA9 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 05:24:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9DNwV15393 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:23:58 -0200 Message-ID: <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br> Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:23:58 -0200 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021125 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: RC NG, ntp and routed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I suggest that routed be specified as being BEFORE ntpd. In the absence of a route to the specified servers, ntpd has the annoying behavior of chosing the address of lo0 as the source address for ntp requests, resulting in all sorts of problems. This wouldn't happen in configurations with defaultrouter, but for those depending on dynamic routing... Of course, most dynamic routing protocols require a certain time before it goes to a stable state and install the externally received routes, but _that_ I solved with a sleep in the zebractl script (zebra being the router I use). I do see one contraindication to this behavior. Most routing protocols also react badly to time changes. Egg and chicken problem, but, personally, and running OSPF, which is one of those protocols that react badly to time changes, I find it preferably to run the router first. After all, having ntpd using 127.0.0.1 as source is useless to me. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca TCO Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br Outros: dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net Q: How did you get into artificial intelligence? A: Seemed logical -- I didn't have any real intelligence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message