From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Apr 6 23:51:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8705B37C278 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17640 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:55:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id IAA35664 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:51:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E995B37C278 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:51:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA04837; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:51:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA98146; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:50:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004070650.AAA98146@harmony.village.org> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: Import of tcsh into src/contrib/, replacing src/usr.bin/csh Cc: arch@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:49:44 PDT." <200004070649.XAA39802@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> References: <200004070649.XAA39802@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:50:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200004070649.XAA39802@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> "Rodney W. Grimes" writes: : I just had to go look to see if I could find some stats as the 10% number : seemed wrong to me the first time. From Freefall, what I would call a : pretty good representation of hard core BSD users :-) we have the following : stats: : : freefall:rgrimes {107} ypcat passwd | grep bin/csh | wc : 44 163 2965 : freefall:rgrimes {108} ^cs^tcs : 115 406 9409 : : Ahhh... 44/115 != 0.10 == 0.38 or 38%. David's statistic is off by a : factor of 3.8 :-( I don't know how many people do the same trick I do, but I have my login shell default to csh and then do Ugly Magic[tm] in my .cshrc file if I can find a tcsh to run instead. This lets me login to machines that don't have tcsh on them, but share yppasswd database with others that do. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message