From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Apr 15 14:14:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73D837B591 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22550 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:14:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id XAA13120 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:14:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394FF37B62B; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA44409; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:13:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA28692; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:13:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004152113.PAA28692@harmony.village.org> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcsh - Imported sources Cc: Brian Somers , "David E. O'Brien" , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:23:15 +0200." <1210.955826595@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <1210.955826595@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:13:13 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <1210.955826595@critter.freebsd.dk> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : I didn't quite feel it like a concensus either, did anyone keep : a score-board ? From my reading, there were two issues. One was tcsh and the second was root account. The second issue was fairly unanimous: Don't change root's default shell's name (despite some pleas from one or two people to do so). The first issue was unclear. People generally argued against this due to size, but said they'd be happy enough with a port of the older csh. This was especially true amoung the embedded folks that posted. There was some minor desire to make sure that there were no scripts that were broken by this, as well as some desire to make sure that a csh compatible set of .cshrc for tcsh could be done. The scripting compatibility issue remaining open, iirc. The .cshrc issue mostly was resolved in the exchange between David (I think) and Rod Grimes (for sure) about the nits of hitting escape vs hitting tab. Given that this was about as clear a consensus as I think I've seen in a while on an emotional issue, I think that David did the right thing and continue to support it. With one caveat: If it turns out that this breaks a lot of people, then we back it out. We have about a year until 4.0 comes out, so we'll have plenty of time to find those people who it breaks, if any. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message