From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 01:45:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E9A16A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dmlb.org (cpc2-cmbg4-6-0-cust36.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [81.96.76.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DDF43F85 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:45:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmlb@dmlb.org) Received: from cpc2-cmbg4-6-0-cust36.cmbg.cable.ntl.com ([81.96.76.36] helo=DJK1Comp) by dmlb.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AODHP-000Mog-00 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:45:15 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c3b26f$a82bc2a0$a7ac77c1@DJK1Comp> From: "Duncan Barclay" To: References: <20031123225117.GA24696@dragon.nuxi.com> <017701c3b21f$f39bf340$43c8a8c0@orac> <20031124005218.GA12820@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:45:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4922.1500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:45:17 -0000 > On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 12:14:39AM -0000, Duncan Barclay wrote: > > > > From: "David O'Brien" > > > > > I'll seriously argue against the 2nd point above. I don't know of a > > > SINGLE person that uses /bin/sh as their interactive shell when > > > multi-user. Not ONE. Every Bourne shell'ish user I've ever met uses > > > Bash, AT&T ksh, pdksh, zsh. > > > > I don't know anyone that farms lama's, so there cannot be any lama farmers. > > One has to make a strong statement to get the people to come out of the > woodwork. Ack. > > computer$ grep dmlb /etc/passwd > > dmlb:*:1166:1166:Duncan Barclay:/home/dmlb:/bin/sh > > Good. Now do you need NSS support? Do the benefits of supporting NSS in > /bin/sh for you out-weigh the performance issue of building it > dynamically? Couldn't you just as easily use the pdksh port? The machine use I generate doesn't really require a lot of /bin/sh invocations. Either I have file servers, shell boxes, or compute engines running CPU bound jobs for half an hour upwards. Whether it takes a gnats longer to start /bin/sh doesn't really matter to me. However, NSS is likely to feature as needed sometime soon. Duncan > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > >