From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 19 13:31:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACA9314C for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x234.google.com (mail-yh0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D8AE7D6 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f52.google.com with SMTP id c41so8486570yho.39 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 06:31:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:disposition-notification-to :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=aub3zI6QZ8IhymDHi7zRPNZIzQkj+ws7Kj9y/Fdr8V4=; b=IlRUyaZfAx3ehp5f++UOTW9RUGamWxZbLqXMDdNxAWkMv442mxDCq284s7xFKJh4xi oJb0TqphrmiNcL1UzM2s4Qn8PS2z8/SK7N1RriIDpCbgHRAtWTT+ePJIewUE/ttVExtt 6XPXrQYFP1cC2GFlJaT8ZjA3LFu4CZLOHVQOAMTDfRZW4ANmn9Kc7/izVqPRC5PZY7Pm dGEzn5t3I20aOA0crxQe50Ai52SKfLPFVYL2tV/5koFrn/vWVvT2ZO1roNMnMYGXtRAz EWTSBPf3w2bQ2TbHVAdojq5CzX6SSM0mBSStI5w8eCBY/HcT0prNIsVILrlOu35W8xJq uASA== X-Received: by 10.236.113.194 with SMTP id a42mr9987898yhh.116.1395235863750; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 06:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.46] ([179.184.51.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h66sm43610626yhb.7.2014.03.19.06.31.01 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Mar 2014 06:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD is really great.. BUT.. From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:30:58 -0300 Message-ID: <1395235858.2927.27.camel@lenovo.toontown> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:31:04 -0000 I face FreeBSD as a system you build, Yes there are the freebsd packages, it is suposed to function, but as there are about 32000 ports, I think it is quite impossible to make them all work together. So I face FreeBSD have to be used in a various ways, to be served several needs, for example, I build a 1030 packages for both 9.X and 10.X servers that have all gnome2, postgres, cyrus... NO Mysql, mono, monodevelop, NO Eclipse... In other server, there is XFce, Mysql... Once the servers are built and in internet, installing a new FreeBSD over the net (about 1GB) is quite easy, and works out of the box. Indeed, you someone wants to try, please email me... it is only one command: pkg install -y gnome2 and in 2 hours you have all the FreeBSD gnome, postgres... a system about 99% ready... Once a week, a simple pkg upgrade -y does the job of making it running. I installed FreeBSD on several notebooks, the numbers are greater than 100's all running FreeBSD10, and gnome2, I have hundreds of happy users. GNOME3??? I did not like, it brakes the idea of the "simple and usefull gnome2", the users did not adapt to gnome3 (kind of windows 7 to windows 8 move), before all of you fans of gnome3 throw me the stones, remember that here in the list all of us are not computer literates, we are computer experts that are able to install a unix system. The "USER" that just wants to turn on the computer, and use it for facebook, office, email, the system is wonderfull, does all the user wants to do i a simple way, without "tricks", with panel, fast, never breaks. Look at the APPLE, for example, the user interface does not change, if you see a macbook of 10 years ago the OS-X interface is the same... Apple learned the lesson, Microsoft did not. Users wants either an keyboard + mouse in a notebook/desktop OR a point and click interface of Android. not both on the same device... (MY OPPINION). Have someone tried to write a document in a tablet??? or watch a movie on a notebook??? Just my modest oppinion.