From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 14:53:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E5C16A420 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4835A43D5E for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1FCeJ6-0001op-2A; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:52:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:53:03 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos Message-ID: <20060224085303.1f326038@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <200602241245.k1OCjWR5003814@compaq.anjos.strangled.net> References: <43FEB6CF.31317.2E7A826E@dan.langille.org> <200602241245.k1OCjWR5003814@compaq.anjos.strangled.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc5336918a65da0e748fb1f41d8f33cf5d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Mall : to hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:53:29 -0000 On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:45:32 GMT Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos wrote: > > From dan@langille.org Fri Feb 24 12:33:48 2006 > > From: "Dan Langille" > > To: Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos > > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:33:35 -0500 > > Subject: Re: BSD Mall : to hell > > Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org > > > > On 24 Feb 2006 at 12:22, Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos wrote: > > > > > Wherever there's people making money out of free software there's > > > dishonesty. > > > > This is untrue. Many people make money out of free software. > > There is a long history of it and all of it quite honest. > > Sorry. I meant in the CD packing business. > > How can it be explained that Red Hat EL sells for a price comparable > to some versions of Windows? At least, at Microsoft they had the > costs of producing themselves a new, modern OS from scratch. > What about some versions of linux totally based on free and GPLed > software selling for $40-50? The price of media? > _______________________________________________ I don't think it can accurately be said that Red Hat is simply in the CD packing business: 1. Remember that Linux is just the kernel. Red Hat has to assemble the OS and create processes for installation and maintenance. 2. When you buy Red Hat EL, you're also buying support and accountability. These things are impossible to provide without payroll expenses. 3. Red Hat employs many open source developers, many of whom work on projects other than Linux (postgresql, for example). Andrew Gould