From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 26 4:55: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from infinity.aesredfish.net (ns1.aesredfish.net [65.168.0.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB1137B400 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from potentialtech.com (mhope-dhcp-65-168-1-181.dashfast.com [65.168.1.181]) by infinity.aesredfish.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g5QBrmr14791; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 07:53:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3D19ACC6.6010807@potentialtech.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:00:06 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020502 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Cc: Kevin Golding , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I hate to bring it up again (spamming) References: <20020626101156585.AAA781@empty1.ekahuna.com> <20020626111142993.AAA791@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Would you folks kindly mind taking this to -chat or some other place? You state the spam problems looks bad to new members of the community, and yet this incessant argument looks worse to people joining this list than anything else. This discussion DOES NOT belong on this list. Philip J. Koenig wrote: > On 26 Jun 2002, at 11:34, Kevin Golding boldly uttered: > > >>Someone, quite probably Philip J. Koenig, once wrote: >> >>>On 26 Jun 2002, at 9:22, Mark Rowlands boldly uttered: >>> >>> >>>>On Wednesday 26 June 2002 1:00 am, Philip J. Koenig wrote: >>>> >>>>>As pointed out before, the problem is exacerbated by the unusual >>>>>scenario of 1) not requiring membership to post and 2) not blocking >>>>>file attachments by default. >>>> >>>>I rather think the presumption is that if your are smart enough to subscribe >>>>to freebsd-questions, you're smart enough to employ some local method to deal >>>>with spam. :-) >>> >>> >>>Actually you are making some incorrect assumptions, ie that everyone >>>is receiving individual messages, not digests. (I almost always >>>subscribe to list digests rather than individual messages) >> >>No idea if it's even possible but how about stripping attachments just >>from the digest? >> >>True it wouldn't eradicate the problem but surely that would at least >>reduce the load for digest users who can't filter spam. > > > > You mean at the listserver side? Good question, but if I were to > hazard a guess I'd think that would require some sort of special > customization, the manpower for which may not be available. > > Whereas it would seem that simply adding some rules to the existing > filtering scheme to reject messages with attachment filenames ending > in .scr|.pif|.bat|.com|.exe|.vbs would be relatively trivial, for > example. (and I can't imagine why any such attachments would have > much usefulness in this list) > > Neither does blocking attachments to digest subscribers address all > the extra gigabytes of junk being spread around the world to non- > digest subscribers every time someone sends another few 100k viruses > to the list. (1GB for every 5 100k viruses sent to the list, assuming > only 50% of the reputed ~4000 list subscribers are receiving separate > messages) > > > > -- > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message