From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 20:52:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFDB106567A for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1960F8FC13 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4SKqJdX062895; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:52:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4SKqJC8062892; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:52:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:52:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <4A1EF742.7030606@otenet.gr> Message-ID: References: <200905281030.n4SAUXdA046386@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th><200905280847.12966.kirk@strauser.com><200905280904.44025.kirk@strauser.com><20090528183801.82b36bbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDE2@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDE6@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <4A1EF742.7030606@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gary Gatten , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is this forum for? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:52:28 -0000 > I've been subscribed to this list for quite some time. I've tried to > help where I know, Me too. And i'm still doing this. Of course when it is occasion for that, and it's rare as most questions are off-topic. > I've tried interesting stuff that people discuss > here. I've learned more than a few tricks just by watching the threads. > Questions and answers that appear here have often inspired me (and given > me the info) to write or revise Handbook sections and articles. > But as of lately it seems my time is wasted in this fruitless discussion. I think it's not. No matter what you think about my posts, and no matter if i will be posting or not, this list will turn into trash quickly because it isn't moderated and isn't kept strictly on-topic. It worked for years but FreeBSD is becoming more popular. But most people that really use and understand unix, and could make use of FreeBSD, already joined and use FreeBSD. Now - this popularity means that more and more pseudo-unix-users are joining and the mess will be only worse. That's why unmoderated list worked fine but will not any more. Try to do statistics about quality of list now, year ago, 3 years ago, 5 years ago... And you will clearly see what i'm talking about. >> >> Everything else is about some apps support that just happen to be in >> ports - while question are completely non-FreeBSD specific and should >> go to this app mailing list. > > Yes. So please tell me why you are asking Xorg questions here. Surely > by your standards this should go to the Xorg mailing list then. And yes, Because thread was already started, so why should i care? For sure i will not if this list will be moderated, and even if i dare, moderator will delete it. > These are interoperability questions. Nobody here is asking Windows > support questions. example - "do you know how to shrink windows partition from 250 to 50 gigs without losing data" Yes he wanted this 200GB for FreeBSD, but that question has NOTHING to FreeBSD.