From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 25 17: 8:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.host4u.net (zeus.host4u.net [216.71.64.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA0837B6A3 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from eli (onlinecables.com [63.204.24.242]) by zeus.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA13682; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:18:35 -0600 From: "Mike Thompson" To: "Assad Khan" Cc: Subject: RE: [Re: FreeBSD-VS-Linux---Some Venting from Linux's side!] Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:03:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010125214754.7488.qmail@nwcst285.netaddress.usa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG %[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Assad Khan %Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:48 PM %Like I said, my point is not to argue that Linux is better %than BSD, of course %it is not. But is is getting there. Inspite of all the %exploits that are to be %found in the new kernel it is getting significantly better. %When I ran FreeBSD %after running Linux for about 9 months I found it to be more %polished and well %designed. My venting is a result of some people equating Linux %with Windows %NT. I am more for unity than fighting. When I joined this list %I thought I %would find people that appreciated Linux and its efforts, %unfortunately it was %otherwise. We Linux users regard BSD as a big brother to %Linux, but you seem %not to act that way. % I used to appreciate Linux's efforts, as Linux was able to do what no other *nix could do, and that is to have mass appeal. Somehow Linux acquired this sexy, yet underdogish aura. Now, with public appeal comes two things, 1. resources (money, programmers, etc) and 2. the requirement of giving the public what it wants. Now the former is wonderful. The latter, however is what bugged me. Perhaps I am in the minority of liking my servers lean. Which was something Linux initially had going for it, but now... cool new features seem to have taken the front seat over performance, stability, and most obviously security. Why do they keep adding extra bells and whistles? Because you go down to your local software store, and you've got what? ~15 flavors of Linux?! And of course they all give glittering generalities like "fast, stable, secure, blah". Now the consumer is forced to go after unique things "Now with over 200 GUI's to choose from!", "now with 2500 password less accounts pre set-up to save you the time and hassle of adding users!", "Now with plug and play support of most major appliances!", etc. In short, Linux was a good thing, and the Unix community was appreciative. But Linux got greedy, factions fought, brand names got muddled... and as sad as this is... to most of the world BSD, AIX, Solaris, (etc) and Linux are all the same. (there are two OSes in this world Windows and other.) So now that Linux lost it's way and the Unix community as a whole gets to pay for it, don't expect us to be happy about it, and don't preach about unity. ok, enough of my bitching. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message