From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 15 22:37:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA06017 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:37:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat) Received: from obie.softweyr.ml.org ([199.104.124.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA06010 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:37:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@xmission.com) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.ml.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA12352; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 23:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199710160543.XAA12352@obie.softweyr.ml.org> From: Wes Peters To: "Christopher R. Bowman" CC: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Bill of Wrongs (was Re: C2 Trusted FreeBSD?) In-Reply-To: References: <199710141240.FAA01458@usr02.primenet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christopher R. Bowman writes, w.r.t. the FBI position on encryption: > The real problem is that it violates article four of the bill of rights. > To force everyone to leave their front door open because > a few people might be storing contraband is unreasonable and > thus these actions violate our 4 amendment rights. Sadly > our Supreme Court hasn't quite seen it this way (see for example > court decisions up holding sobriety check points) and we the > people have refused to help them see the light. Freeh's position also violates the first amendment; the constitution places no limits on how we are allowed to express ourselves. Encryption (and its cousin, encoding) are merely forms of expression. This is why the government restrictions on crypto technology have always raised the spectre of "national security," which is government-speak for "damn the constitution, full authority ahead!" -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com