From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 16:55:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684BA1065670 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-143.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-143.bluehost.com [67.222.38.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F6F18FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 28404 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2008 16:55:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2008 16:55:53 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K7CZ5-0005Yz-3R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:55:51 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:19 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:19 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:55:55 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:02:51AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and= =20 > >you don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want= =20 > >out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind= =20 > >diy FreeBSD is your toolbox. >=20 > if you want out of the box "cool desktop" use Windows, because it's a=20 > system made for this. Is this meant to be trolling? For glitzy, bells-and-whistles desktop featuritis, I find that open source Unix-like OSes actually do better in general than MS Windows Vista and even MacOS X (though at least with MacOS X you can install the X Window System and get much the same functionality that you can with a Linux distribution or BSD Unix system): http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=3D335 For actual productivity-enhancement, assuming you're a highly competent computer user, I'd recommend against any of the GUI systems discussed at that URL, and stick to window managers that just stay the heck out of your way. Good candidates include things like wmii, AHWM, Fluxbox, and Sawfish. Most people seem to prefer something between the two, however. If someone wanted a "cool" desktop "experience", though, MS Windows is about the last place I'd send 'em. Well, okay, maybe I'd send someone there before OpenVMS, but that's kind of getting far afield. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Marvin Minsky: "It's just incredible that a trillion-synapse computer could actually spend Saturday afternoon watching a football game." --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhSpYUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWKpQCfQl0oo09o9ARrfvjBmwOdzdEl XlgAoL8IiBjuqp0084lk43EZTuEpemmQ =nD6C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz--