From owner-freebsd-chat Fri May 26 21:20:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EFC37B752 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@nwlink.com) Received: from ip32.r1.d.bel.nwlink.com (ip32.r1.d.bel.nwlink.com [207.202.172.32]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09912; Fri, 26 May 2000 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:04:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcw@server.highperformance.net Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why encourage stupid people to use *BSD WAS:Re: IE forFreeBSDPetition In-Reply-To: <392F0B39.FC7F84F2@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: >"Jason C. Wells" wrote: >> >> You argument is still arrogant and elitist. All denominators should come >> and we should welcome them. > > While I agree with this on principle, and have worked very hard for the >last several years to "lower the bar" for competent freebsd >administration, the plan fact is that at some point on the curve you run >out of resources to support people with a very low clue factor. If >you're willing to put your fingers where your mouth is and answer the >questions, write the documentation, do the patches, etc.; that's great, >and we will welcome your contributions. But in this context simply >saying, "FreeBSD SHOULD do X" is not very meaningful. I do agree that not _everyone_ can be supported. I maintain that we should not be inclined to reject folks out of an elitist bent. I can add the context that I knew about when I was writing but failed to share with everyone else. :) My contribution to FreeBSD is (I took a hiatus but I am back now) mostly -questions stuff. I write with a predisposition towards how we approach handling people that approach us through -questions. -questions being the place where the clueless first meet the rest of us. My thoughts during this discussion should never be construed as a request to dumb down the OS. Thank You, | http://students.washington.edu/jcwells/ Jason Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message