From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 28 00:05:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C07145E5B7 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 00:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CLTNZ22KKz4P7l for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 00:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8709C8E178 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 23:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 09RNv5F9043777 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 23:57:05 GMT (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 09RNv5ta043774 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 23:57:05 GMT (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 23:57:05 +0000 (UTC) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the "better / best " method to multi-boot different OSes natively WITHOUT VirtualBox(es) ? In-Reply-To: <20201024123148.4929fb9e.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20201024123148.4929fb9e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CLTNZ22KKz4P7l X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com does not designate 204.107.128.30 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.64 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@fledge.watson.org]; REPLYTO_DN_EQ_FROM_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.38)[0.375]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.86)[0.861]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; VIOLATED_DIRECT_SPF(3.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.90)[0.901]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 00:05:19 -0000 On Sat, 24 Oct 2020, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 02:51:25 -0700, TheBigBlue Guard wrote: >> Yes ...everyone...What is the "better /best and least expensive " method(s) >> to mult-boot different OSes natively WITHOUT virtual boxes like VirtualPC >> or DOSBox etc. I was seriously thinking about mult-booting 5-6 different >> operating systems including freeBSD..... > > Depends. On sooo many things... ;-) > > Is your computer using BIOS or UEFI? Do you have MBR or GPT > partitions in place? Shall the different systems be aware of > each other? Is it intended for them to share resources? > > If you can answer with "yes", "yes", and "let's see", the > following article is probably quite helpful for you: > > https://github.com/bourne-again/TripleBoot-UEFI > > For this to be valid, I simply assume that you have a sufficiently > recent PC that no longer uses a BIOS, and you will prepare your > disks using GPT. Those are a lot of assumtions, though. And as I > said initially, there is no definite answer, because the question > contains too many variables. Does not compute. :-) > Great link - thank you. I am generally only interested in dual booting a new laptop. I suppose booting from a usb might be feasible but I have enough trouble making sure I have the charging stuff, a network extender, and ethernet cables without adding to that. For me, if I hit any issue with a desktop its bye-bye winders assuming I thought about keep it. I would be interested in opinions on the best hard disks. I agree here you get what you pay for. I have two NAS appliances with Western Digital. On the older one two disks have gone bad in what seems to me not that long.