From owner-freebsd-current Mon Dec 13 22: 1:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from darkstar.qx.net (darkstar.qx.net [208.235.88.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3976614ED0; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 22:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gchil0@pop.uky.edu) Received: from mail.qx.net (mail.qx.net [208.235.88.10]) by darkstar.qx.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA04367; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:01:08 -0500 Received: from k7 ([208.200.110.198]) by mail.qx.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA61A4; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:03:58 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991214005153.00953590@pop.uky.edu> X-Sender: gchil0@pop.uky.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:01:21 -0500 To: Peter Wemm , Greg Lehey From: Greg Childers Subject: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! Cc: Mike Smith , Poul-Henning Kamp , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19991213234037.36B341CA0@overcee.netplex.com.au> References: <19991211130339.N760@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:40 AM 12/14/99 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: >Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 23:32:27 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > [missing attribution to Greg Childers ] > > >> Except that ATA currently does not work on my system. So I assume I'm not > > >> the only one. > > > > > > Actually, to quote from your original message: > > > > > >> According to technical product summary, the primary IDE interface, on > > >> which both my drives reside, is a PCTech RZ1000 on the PCI local bus. > > > >The RZ1000 is *dangerous*! We are doing no favours by making it run.. :-/ >IMHO It is better to loose the user by not playing ball than to corrupt >their data or run unreliably and make them hate us for it. > >http://www.faqs.org/faqs/pc-hardware-faq/enhanced-IDE/part1/ > o The PC-Tech RZ-1000, used on AT&T, Dell, Gateway and Intel boards, > also has two data-corrupting bugs. See also > . > > In both cases, the corruption occurs only in specific software > environments and is very subtle; you can go on working for months > without suspecting anything more than buggy software. The damage can > be immense. For all the details, look at Roedy Green's (roedy@bix.com) > "PCI EIDE controller flaws" FAQ included with his EIDE test > program which will > test your system for the bugs. Thanks for the info! I wasn't aware of this problem. Fortunately, the fix was easy. From eideflaw.txt in the above mentioned utility (actually it's eidete20.zip now): Some BIOSes have a feature disable the EIDE prefetch buffer. This will bypass both RZ-1000 flaws... I haven't tried ATA after today's update. I'll do that tomorrow. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message