From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 19 17:45:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4BB478A; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A771786; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.191]) by ltcfislmsgpa07.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s2JHjF9f015980 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:45:15 -0500 Received: from THEMADHATTER (10.242.181.54) by smarthost.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.191) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.174.1; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:45:14 -0500 From: Sender: Devin Teske To: "'Polytropon'" , References: <53297C5C.5030608@gmail.com> <20140319160246.a0aec5be.freebsd@edvax.de> <01c701cf4398$58e97aa0$0abc6fe0$@FreeBSD.org> <20140319183523.3f4b6389.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140319183523.3f4b6389.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: RE: FreeBSD is really great.. BUT.. Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:45:03 -0700 Message-ID: <01fc01cf439a$f60c75b0$e2256110$@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQDxIfbCM3+KIkx+Ch1vrSdcs3JdVwKJLLpoAezlTXoCzb9jxQLtMeX+Ag7884ACQ+iibJww0f1A Content-Language: en-us X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87, 1.0.14, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-03-19_06:2014-03-19,2014-03-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:45:31 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Polytropon [mailto:freebsd@edvax.de] > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:35 AM > To: dteske@FreeBSD.org > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD is really great.. BUT.. > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:26:20 -0700, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > I too must be doing something wrong. Been using FreeBSD as a desktop > > for work, play, fun, since 4.8. Using it as a Desktop right now with FreeBSD > 10. > > Ah, play, I forgot to mention that I also use my desktop for gaming, > egoshooters primarily, even from foreign platforms which have stopped > being able to run those games. :-) > > > > > NOTE: I use "xsm" as a tool for choosing which window manager I want > > to run during login and I use "xdm" as a login screen. > > You could use wdm to combine those; wdm is the "WindowMaker Display > Manager", it looks like xdm, or more specific, a bit like the Solaris display > manager, where you enter your login information _and_ can select which > window manager (or desktop > environment) to launch for the current session. > > There is a less elegant solution with xdm: instead of entering your session > with pressing ENTER after entering the password, press PF1 for "failsafe". > Make sure your ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession launches one controlling terminal (e. > g. "exec xterm") from which you can then start the window manager you > want to try. Done testing? Exit the window manager. I won't log you out - this > is done by entering "exit" in the controlling terminal. > Well, XSM gives me a list when I log in or I can select "Failsafe" which gives me a single XTerm. Never knew that XDM had a fail-safe. I think if I read what you wrote correctly, XDM can be told to (by pressing ... F1?) not load the .xsession file? Otherwise I'm a bit confused... I use XSM in the fashion you describe (I launch a failsafe, test a window manager, quit it, then use xsm to create a profile, log out, back in, and can now select it from a menu. -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.