From owner-freebsd-current Mon Mar 11 13:50: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA4437B416 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id WAA17962 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:50:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2BLhMc67707; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:43:22 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from j) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:43:22 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200203112143.g2BLhMc67707@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Organization: Private BSD site, Dresden X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E References: <20020310164640.GA21339@myhakas.estpak.ee> <20020311181940.X5606-100000@gamplex.bde.org> From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Subject: Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT? X-Original-Newsgroups: local.freebsd.current To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans wrote: > The -current cu is a crock of tip. It has more missing features, compared to the Taylor version, like the unability to run an external program with stdin and stdout piped to the remote end simultaneously (like a local "sz" Z-modem program), plus it has this annoying startup message "can't open log file /var/log/aculog" (why should it be able to open it at all?). I wish the Taylor version hadn't been thrown overboard at all. We used to have two alternatives, cu and tip. Now we only have tip and tip. :( (I doubt tip has actually less security bugs than Taylor cu. If we threw out all the BSD-originating programs that once experienced a security problem, we would rather quickly end up with a skeleton that could hardly be named `Unix' anymore...) > This is bug for bug compatible with the V7 cu except > for the unusably slow speed of 9600. For perfect brokenness, the > default speed should be 300. *ROTFL* -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message