From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 13:43:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D961E16A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minduploading.net@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C7943D4C for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:43:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from minduploading.net@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so761592nfe for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YavuHthWNz3IfVhFXXlwlA6wAWunjwmGuMEL3BvAnh26T0NzwwGCAYGxs8fFt5RGTZld/sIv86xV0kwgNq1oEO2BCkzI3SC46+teEVxBxAxOdtc4BNeOmfski9zYYQ4r+rTwR7OklROdD9qJ18dihLTvqIahDK+aVK8AFGImhUk= Received: by 10.78.128.11 with SMTP id a11mr1266657hud; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.132.5 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1625c9cf0608050643t7212e35dk8a96760ca2e8adc0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:43:14 +0100 From: "Australian National University" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44d49ea4.017a61bd.2f25.ffffcd2cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44d49ea4.017a61bd.2f25.ffffcd2cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: uraquasi@hotmail.com Subject: Fwd: failure notice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:43:18 -0000 To whom it may concern, We here at Australian National University are wondering if there are any recommended (or any whatseover) simulators or emulators (software) that run on Windows X86/i386 Intel hardwre in native true standard 32-bit mode that emulate and provide a fully operational and "ready to boot" system with a given runtime of an emulated AMD64 PROCESSOR. Yes, that is not a typo: we are looking for a 32-bit EXE that can provide an emulated 64-bit Processor *ON a 32-bit machine. *Just like Voltage can be increased by sacrificing Amperage in electronics is it not possible to (dramatically) sacrifice speed of a x86 32-bit hyper-threading processor like a 3 gHZ PENTIUM 4 so that it could run a proper X64 OPERATING SYSTEM such as MICROSOFT WINDOWS X64 COMPUTE CLUSTER at a (terrible) speed of 500mhz or so (given the exchange for 64-bit power) ? We are considering beginning a project here at the Australian National University whereby we can make MICROSOFT WINDOWS X64 COMPUTE CLUSTER run on a 32-bit machine; this OS is essentially identical to WINDOWS SERVER 2003 except that it is X64, includes WOWEXEC to run 32-bit (the inverse of what we want to do), and incorporates MPICH as MSPICH-2 or MPIEXEC.EXE. We are even thinking about writing an equivalent MPIEXEC.EXEapplication for a Windows 2000 server (Active Directory Cluster Domain Controller) that would TRICK a WINDOWS COMPUTE CLUSTER machine into thinking it is another COMPUTE CLUSTER NODE and allow it to receive tasks from the Compute Cluster Job scheduler. Obviously our basic goal here is to allow X86 machines to join compute clusters and circumvent Microsoft's limitation of forcing people to use the AMD64 Processor. We are aware of your bias yet would appreciate your constructive criticism. Any reply will be quoted and may be re-printed in any journal printed by the University. Yours Faithfully, Adam. ------=_Part_65325_32037155.1154784928865 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
To whom it may concern,
 
We here at Australian National University are wondering if there are any recommended (or any whatseover) simulators or emulators (software) that run on Windows X86/i386 Intel hardwre in native true standard 32-bit mode that emulate and provide a fully operational and "ready to boot" system with a given runtime of an emulated AMD64 PROCESSOR. Yes, that is not a typo: we are looking for a 32-bit EXE that can provide an emulated 64-bit Processor ON a 32-bit machine. Just like Voltage can be increased by sacrificing Amperage in electronics is it not possible to (dramatically) sacrifice speed of a x86 32-bit hyper-threading processor like a 3 gHZ PENTIUM 4 so that it could run a proper X64 OPERATING SYSTEM such as MICROSOFT WINDOWS X64 COMPUTE CLUSTER at a (terrible) speed of 500mhz or so (given the exchange for 64-bit power) ? We are considering beginning a project here at the Australian National University whereby we can make MICROSOFT WINDOWS X64 COMPUTE CLUSTER run on a 32-bit machine; this OS is essentially identical to WINDOWS SERVER 2003 except that it is X64, includes WOWEXEC to run 32-bit (the inverse of what we want to do), and incorporates MPICH as MSPICH-2 or MPIEXEC.EXE. We are even thinking about writing an equivalent MPIEXEC.EXEapplication for a Windows 2000 server (Active Directory Cluster Domain Controller) that would TRICK a WINDOWS COMPUTE CLUSTER machine into thinking it is another COMPUTE CLUSTER NODE and allow it to receive tasks from the Compute Cluster Job scheduler. Obviously our basic goal here is to allow X86 machines to join compute clusters and circumvent Microsoft's limitation of forcing people to use the AMD64 Processor. We are aware of your bias yet would appreciate your constructive criticism. Any reply will be quoted and may be re-printed in any journal printed by the University.
 
Yours Faithfully,
 
Adam.
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