From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 23: 1:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D8837B401; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haystack.lclark.edu (haystack.lclark.edu [149.175.1.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EDB43E9C; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from copeland-30-191.lclark.edu (anholt@copeland-30-191.lclark.edu [149.175.30.191]) by haystack.lclark.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02183; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? From: Eric Anholt To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Wesley Morgan , current@FreeBSD.ORG, Maxim Sobolev In-Reply-To: <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> <20021014041422.GA31437@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 13 Oct 2002 23:00:08 -0700 Message-Id: <1034575226.3020.75.camel@anholt.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 21:14, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:28:51PM -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: > > > I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix > > some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see > > release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the > > noise, and I can't see a release being made that has a known unstable X. > > I thought this was believed to be a bug in X that was exposed by > kernel changes. > > Kris I've heard some people saying that it's the bezier bug. When I had moved to late September/early October kernels, I saw sig11s and the hangs (some temporary, some resulting in reset switch before they could be temporary), but never that message people have mentioned about the Beziers. I couldn't see *any* pattern to my crashes. It often happened while I was reading email, but then I spend a decent amount of time reading mail. The xpert@xfree86.org archived message mentioned previously about Type 1 issues listed two bugs. One was an abort on an error, which we aren't experiencing as far as I've heard. The other was not failing requests for very large fonts, which shouldn't be happening too often and shouldn't have anything to do with the kernel version. Could anyone who is having stability issues with X please email me privately if they are using either -current before September or -stable? If not, without some sort of hints of where an issue really is, I'm going to chalk this up to kernel bugs. -- Eric Anholt http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message