From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 17 8:22:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051nc7.san.rr.com (dt051nc7.san.rr.com [204.210.32.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338B81559D for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051nc7.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00421; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37403420.4369ED40@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:22:08 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE-0516 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graeme Tait Cc: stuyman@confusion.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, info@boatbooks.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: How to change the shell?] References: <373DAD1C.6FA8766F@gorean.org> <373F1DEC.77D7@echidna.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graeme Tait wrote: > As a relative newbie, I've been following this thread with interest, because I > use two systems configured with bash as the default root shell, and haven't > experienced any problems - plus is it a nice convenience. > > I also still haven't heard a convincing reason not to have bash as root > default, given appropriate precautions. Everything in your response can be summed up like this. "Under ideal conditions where I control all the variables I will never have a problem with changing root's shell." I agree with that statement completely. However what I, and other experienced system administrators are telling you is that if you stay in this game long enough, eventually you will have a situation where you don't control all the variables, and one little mistake (not even always your mistake) will render your system unreachable. Now, whether you choose to heed this advice or not is all up to you. Like I said, it's your system, knock yourself out. Also, your trite dismissal of the problems of remote system administration does nothing but demonstrate your ignorance of the issues involved. I administer a lot of remote systems. In all likelihood I will never sit at the console of any of them. All of them get upgraded remotely several times a year. Downtime on those systems costs me and my customers money. Therefore I take every precaution. If all you're doing is playing with freebsd on your desktop you can afford to be more cavalier, however please don't generalize your experience into situations you don't have any experience with. Thanks, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message