From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Apr 7 0:15: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5869237B532 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17975 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:18:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id JAA35780 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:14:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (obie.softweyr.com [204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE2E37C246 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (Foolstrustidentd@obie.softweyr.com [204.68.178.33]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22731; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:14:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <38ED8AF4.71A04819@softweyr.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:15:00 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Import of tcsh into src/contrib/, replacing src/usr.bin/csh References: <200004070625.XAA39745@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > [CC trimmed back to -arch] > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > > Command line completion, and something other than bazzar "!^?-" history > > > substitution. Shell evolution (and other command line tools) have shown > > > that either Emacs or Vi -style line editing is the way to go. No one has > > > adopted the bazzar Csh history substitution syntax. > > > > ^No one^Only Wes^ > ^s^s and Rod^, > who really love the !-7:9-11 !-6:2 As it can do things you can't > do with the stupid simplistic !-6:4-9 of other shells and probably > often look at the output of the !-7:5 command to glue a new long complex > command togeather out of tokens from many previous commands. > > For the csh impared: > Only Wes and Rod has adopted the bazzar Csh history substition syntax., > who really love the bazzar "!^?-" history substitution. As it can do things > you can't do with the stupid simplistic Emacs or Vi -style line editing of > other shells and probably often look at the output of the history command to > glue a new long complex command togeather out of tokens from many previous > commands. > > IMHO, If you don't use these features of csh you might as well run bash... :-) But Rod, bash supports both of these syntaxes. ;^) My vote for keeping /bin/csh was based purely on size. Please note I am an embed-head who tends to boots tons of code off 16MB Flash parts. And yes, my current (until tomorrow) employer is a huge user of csh scripts, dumb as that is. Some of these scripts range in size up to thousands of lines. Augh! -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message