From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 08:49:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576D9106564A for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 08:49:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48D48FC08 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 08:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so3063313fxm.43 for ; Mon, 25 May 2009 01:49:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6UA0Jl6CexZwvIi3xNqvKRcbW+8ZpBd58+ajd0107t8=; b=tIMsW2SAnwj1Fi/RfFxems1wqVaykPGDSsA7sxrFNFaeMkjO8sfvGK204NWyAm5TgX 7oGOG84qKR2Szbt6eFEWjc0GfF1B2iXTOkyfqoeJ1pS9mxHmF0MjiiuUcZta3TFasNBr Zpw6qjp8NmN7MPeWQpfD13q0YBWTI7rcnkHfM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IZLGxgVDWRS6ZUXdGVzxdk4W+5UEyDUHzF6pd8IVCX06SUOEFSkFTr2jB1wOnWVIMk uyoZGRYkF4nBGxwOwhT2EfFd/r7SBlNTEOKytBRwVl4LD1WFf3laLpqpMcrndA44vkKH 11IXutZUuJbGAvycAQepe1jS5NFGrIWschzFI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.113.198 with SMTP id b6mr6754385bkq.115.1243241393442; Mon, 25 May 2009 01:49:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A1A58FA.60303@boosten.org> References: <200905241315.n4ODFB96007801@mp.cs.niu.edu> <4A1A58FA.60303@boosten.org> From: Chris Rees Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:49:33 +0100 Message-ID: To: Peter Boosten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Scott Bennett , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Yuri Subject: Re: How can this 'top' command output make sense? Load over 7 and total CPU use ~5% X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 08:49:55 -0000 2009/5/25 Peter Boosten : > Chris Rees wrote: >> 2009/5/25 Wojciech Puchar : >>>>> first - says that it's measure of CPU load >>>>> then - "or waiting for short-term events such as disk I/O" - which is NOT >>>>> measure of CPU load. >>>>> >>>> Er, what? Of course it is! >>>> >>> amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems you are true expert ;) >>> >> >> Do you ever think before you type? You regularly fill this mailing >> list with crap, incorrect advice, and correcting experts on topics >> that you haven't got a clue on. >> >> Just google load average and see for yourself. >> >> Remember checking things before making oneself look a fool? Perhaps >> you used to do that at one time, most other people do. >> >> Chris >> > > I think Wojciech means '...which is NOT measure of CPU _utilization_' > > In that case he's correct: whenever the CPU has to wait a lot for I/O, > like network and disk, then the _load_ will go up, while the CPU > _utilization_ stays low. > > Peter > > I appreciate that while English may not be people's first language, and most have excellent skills (including Wojciech, don't get me wrong) there is still a responsibility to make sure you can be understood. He has been trying to mock me in my understanding of what he wrote: >>> amount of disk I/O is a measure of CPU load? seems you are true expert ;) If you're going to do this, you should make sure that what you WROTE, not mean, is correct. Otherwise, misinformation spreads and is saved in these archives for someone to stumble upon. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?