From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 11:29:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784DE16A4CE for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:29:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mongers.org (miracle.mongers.org [193.162.142.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9FE943D46 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:29:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@mongers.org) Received: (qmail 15875 invoked by uid 1021); 10 Jan 2005 11:29:04 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:29:04 +0100 From: Morten Liebach To: java@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050110112904.GB31285@mongers.org> References: <41DE4504.5040300@ebs.gr> <2569.216.220.59.169.1105114005.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <41E247F2.2070605@nefli.nl> <20050110102730.GA31285@mongers.org> <41E25A39.9040506@nefli.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E25A39.9040506@nefli.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Accept-Language: dansk, english X-Organisation: Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of Death, Inc. X-PGP-Key-ID: F1360CA9 X-PGP-Key-URL: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF1360CA9 X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: 8CF5 32EE A5EC 36B2 4E3F ACDF 6D86 BEB3 F136 0CA9 Subject: Re: FW: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:29:06 -0000 On 2005-01-10 11:34:33 +0100, Joris Verschoor wrote: > Morten Liebach wrote: > > >On 2005-01-10 10:16:34 +0100, Joris Verschoor wrote: > >>Ean Kingston wrote: > >> > >>>I have to agree with Achilleus on all his points. > >>> > >>>The company I work for was making a similar decision a couple of years > >>>ago > >>>and not having a binary distribution of Java took FreeBSD right out of > >>>the > >>>running. > >>> > >>>Management takes the stance that if they can't get a binary for > >>>production > >>>use then the product is not sufficiently supported. > >>> > >>>So, I run SUN systems at work now. > >>> > >>On some servers, we'd like to run FreeBSD, but instead we run linux, > >>because we need good java support... I hope some day sun will wake up. > > > >Here at work we use FreeBSD 4.x servers running Java and tomcat, it is > >not a problem at all, it just works. > > > >We run 8 webservers and about the same number of backend servers like > >that. We only use Linux for our load balancers. > > > >Maybe there's specific things in your apps that won't work, I don't > >know, but my experience is that there's no reason not to use FreeBSD for > >running Java apps, unless you need bleeding edge stuff perhaps. > > > We've done some tests, and everything works, but the build process takes > ages and updates are slow. + 5.0 is not ready, but we won't be doing 5.0 > stuff yet, although we'd love to use generics etc. You should build on a dedicated build host anyway, then it doesn't matter much that it takes hours to bulid, and you can build site specific packages of all kinds of other stuff too etc. But getting 5.0 is a problem for now. Have a nice day Morten -- http://m.mongers.org/weblog/ __END__