From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 29 05:01:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0CA16A4CE; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (mail.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0AB43FAF; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1])A7D3915D65; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7958496FDB; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:02 +0100 (CET) To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" In-Reply-To: <20031126130402.GB57523@madman.celabo.org> (Jacques A. Vidrine's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:04:02 -0600") References: <20031125025621.453732A8FC@canning.wemm.org> <200311250311.hAP3BTCO075916@apollo.backplane.com> <20031125150700.GA48007@madman.celabo.org> <20031125201421.GB54467@madman.celabo.org> <200311252039.hAPKdBfq080963@apollo.backplane.com> <20031126130402.GB57523@madman.celabo.org> From: Matthias Andree Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:02 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Matthias Andree Subject: Re: NSS and PAM, dynamic vs. static X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:01:05 -0000 "Jacques A. Vidrine" writes: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 02:00:08AM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: >> Matthew Dillon writes: >> >> > How much do you intend to use NSS for? I mean, what's the point of >> > adopting this cool infrastructure if all you are going to do with it >> > is make a better PAM out of it? >> >> The important thing is that NSS allows to plug modules such as LDAP or >> PostgreSQL for user base management. PAM is only halfway there and >> doesn't give libc et al. a notion of a user or group context (in spite >> of its "account" context), NSS does. One might discuss if PAM is really >> needed with NSS in place, but it's hard to think of a system without >> NSS and removing PAM now doesn't look right. > > NSS and PAM do not overlap. I wonder how PAM gets "system" authentication information for pam_pwdb or pam_unix or how it's called today and on the pertinent system if not through NSS. Reimplementation of these "passwd/shadow/whatever" mechanisms? -- Matthias Andree Encrypt your mail: my GnuPG key ID is 0x052E7D95