From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 19 13:55:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36B937B405; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g2JLtKj29125; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.64.10]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02612; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hollin.btc.adaptec.com (hollin [162.62.149.56]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15119; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:55:17 -0700 (MST) Received: (from scottl@localhost) by hollin.btc.adaptec.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2JLr2H02874; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:53:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com) X-Authentication-Warning: hollin.btc.adaptec.com: scottl set sender to scott_long@btc.adaptec.com using -f Subject: Re: cdrecord for ATAPI burners available.. From: Scott Long To: sos@freebsd.dk Cc: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200203191326.g2JDQ6p62382@freebsd.dk> References: <200203191326.g2JDQ6p62382@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.1 Date: 19 Mar 2002 14:53:02 -0700 Message-Id: <1016574782.2672.27.camel@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 06:26, Sxren Schmidt wrote: >=20 > For those that have problems with burncd or simply cannot live > without, I've put up the source for an ATAPI enabled cdrecord on: >=20 > ftp://freebsd.dk/pub/ATA/cdrtools-1.10-ATA.tgz >=20 > On -stable it needs the ATA driver update I did a yesterday. >=20 > It does *not* need CAM or the atapicam patches, it uses the > ATA driver directly.. >=20 > Enjoy! >=20 > -S=F8ren >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message S=F8ren, In the past you've objected to ATAPI-CAM on two grounds, fear that it won't be done right, and fear that it will add more work to yourself. I think that there are enough highly intelligent people interested in the project that the first issue can be put to rest. While I highly respect what you have done with this port, I think that you are eroding your defense of the second issue. I fail to see how porting (and presumably maintaining) a multitude of CD utilities will be less work for you than allowing someone to put a CAM hook into your acd driver, and then sitting back as they maintain that work. If you object to ATAPI-CAM, just come out and and admit it. This isn't a battle of egos of wills, and nobody is trying to discredit your work.=20 You are a valuable member of the FreeBSD community, and everybody appreciates the work that you have put it. ATAPI-CAM is not meant to replace you, since we still need your expertise in every other part of the ATA/ATAPI/IDE framework. It is meant to help users who want a simple way to do cool stuff with their ATAPI devices. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message