From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Apr 4 8:57:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5F237BAD7 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11925 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:01:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id RAA23785 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:57:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D7637BB0B for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:57:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.freebsd.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27931; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:56:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Terry Lambert , chris@calldei.com, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposal: Union mount of fdesc on top of /dev In-reply-to: Your message of "04 Apr 2000 17:54:28 +0200." Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:56:51 +0200 Message-ID: <27929.954863811@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: >Terry Lambert writes: >> > > In message , Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: >> > > > Anyway, since /dev/std* never change, how about having fdesc *only* >> > > > handle the /dev/fd/* stuff, so you can (non-union) mount it on /dev/fd >> > > > and let /dev/std* be either symlinks to /dev/fd/[012] or plain old >> > > > static device nodes like they're now? >> > > Symlinks have my vote. >> > The downside is they'll be broken if fdesc isn't mounted... >> The other downside is that, unlike devfs contents, they'll get >> just as stale just as fast as /dev gets out of date with the >> currently running kernel and/or MAKEDEV. > >You expect the major/minor numbers for std{in,out,err} to change in >the foreseeable future? Uhm, why would they change ? They are just aliases for /dev/fd/[0-2] after all... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message