From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 4 17:20:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29208153183C for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 17:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockyhotas@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E43E3833EF for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 17:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockyhotas@post.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mail.com; s=dbd5af2cbaf7; t=1554398401; bh=Lx7Y1aaPBTgAXgca40GbcDTTODKHyVB4WIoDa6ii034=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=mht+pkkamNz3E9tTZKZ+1J320UraDSbNpxMCvEp5agTg6Apo+lwBoeNxORqKwvWbX eADXne5T7tbnnwme0wNXi0thAWtPDiB0YFxDoFwMIBP+mfYw9ANQoTEYHDxUE7m9Fw 7nevm9Nv0GUQ9+7G609QwFxL4CQ45j6gXv5Z7dds= X-UI-Sender-Class: 214d933f-fd2f-45c7-a636-f5d79ae31a79 Received: from [95.246.186.146] ([95.246.186.146]) by web-mail.mail.com (3c-app-mailcom-lxa05.server.lan [10.76.45.6]) (via HTTP); Thu, 4 Apr 2019 19:14:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: "Rocky Hotas" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: vi(1) and ISO 8859-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 19:14:49 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:J5iAtiNC/eC30Ai7joCudpI59rvISUd6fl4gO2J9owsBndDoWVyYJfO1I1Arj/Zi3M2DG YvFKxHjlLTCZHv68vXFtigaSugb8JtxNJ38aboEUxB9sIRcwdHp5gS1pc60h3+9pp1kGGfsf3d// VAeI/Pxz4GGHfO2XebzYhT0HUxc/lPiaOgpc0BsEfWHcTwoRCFwbf6geBziSoyAoecBnCpSi3q1Q 5km3/vYgR7tWG2fmjBSe07mYdypAuM28nm2qPBic/NXCB16Z5v1dDXiWbaq/FUYOUFYfLAFndE7I F0= X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:mMqZ6QOhIrI=:ULqVg1UJM1YR778UHFcinL aHdrb7d+mdzQzs166iUY7mhFxM0khXkYIKpGfmuwiuRwbDzqjYZj+8WjIRQ1v5s+gC6iXCh0V kxPmA5HR5j1cgpufZWYBjXpvdwIaKUg28gQlVUEVS5nhU8YNi1wt+vrl0M5JUUSpr5DATA71Z zjG2HWFx+GZj/fJzlR25ZkXES7DK2z3xfR6hR5Ga+ikQxobaAh1AUC9uiT5hIk1K9oLE6VwPK kb2yXiTjpfHa6qbkH+nOBrODIBM+4FitdYyO+Rd1tbp6r1vBka0bRbQ8AvYEDp+PJanRytZpA I3eTF7XmAIfHdyLDnGBPNJS7rVR/POUOEdR9+19JiVxTKGKXuAP7fO+nnepAIya/ipye4xFNL YKVMCHLVxXIFdFJqNDCA1GFzGTJA0Memliazzi+3VP+FoepsmHtaeOgKAQbGaotHsrqo9GNRI 1uu8czl21Wv5LpAGOB/hp7IEB7AUdxaSFMT6nmsaWAQuweC0Ym8KgWWCJrg8Ab0oySKgHp1JT +0XDvuTIaHTVWV/hipTVsYXZ1HXOzimMBc23JSLdAC2F6pYV6OX9rlQzMuEBC/id1D/i9+amr eRb3hEUnNZH5s= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E43E3833EF X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=mail.com header.s=dbd5af2cbaf7 header.b=mht+pkka; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rockyhotas@post.com designates 74.208.4.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rockyhotas@post.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.208.4.192/26]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[post.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.mail.com,mx00.mail.com]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[200.4.208.74.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.3.1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[146.186.246.95.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:74.208.0.0/16, country:DE]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[post.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mail.com:s=dbd5af2cbaf7]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.39)[0.394,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[post.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.93)[0.930,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.87)[ip: (-1.95), ipnet: 74.208.0.0/16(4.76), asn: 8560(1.55), country: DE(-0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.92)[0.917,0]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 17:20:06 -0000 Hello! I have an ISO-8859-1 text file, which is opened and shared by several OSs. If I open it with vi(1) in FreeBSD 12.0, its encoding is not detected and UTF-8 is used, instead. Any non-ascii character will be read and written incorrectly in UTF-8, creating an ambiguous encoding. This can be fixed with (see `Comment 1' in https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196447): :se fe=iso-8859-1 in command mode. But this implies that, for each file, the encoding must be first checked by the user. >From FreeBSD's vi(1) manpage: fileencoding, fe [auto detect] Set the encoding of the current file. Here, `auto detect' maybe means that vi(1) should automatically switch its internal encoding according to the current file. So, when this does not happen, should it be considered a bug? Or is this desired, for some reason? In Linux Ubuntu's vi(1), for example, the encoding is automatically set, based on the file. Bye! Rocky