From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 11 11:40:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B1E76 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286E6AF for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:40:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=49Ta83ucLAL5zFteNzWE2mCdeOqOSNnwQiLbGsrYxog=; b=dl+XgqAKrARpJ92AeCAlEQn0oVXQ8K4C9e6uDR/qFIyVHkH7a899XOpzb18ohuQzbxjlZqTpKvPm4/ZeqH760954XJs3swa3iFBptGkxedkcz/RBV7vZ6YonLA2krA+c; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=27506 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U4rk2-001APJ-Go; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:40:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:40:06 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Fabian Keil Subject: Re: 7+ days of dogfood Message-ID: <20130211184006.0c7f9943@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20130211114811.09e56b55@fabiankeil.de> References: <20130210000723.GA73630@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20130211114811.09e56b55@fabiankeil.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:40:12 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:48:11 +0100 Fabian Keil wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote: > > > My conclusion: on at least my not-so-new laptop, FreeBSD-10 can > > be used in a desktop environment if one takes some care during the > > installation. > > I'm using CURRENT on my also-no-so-new laptop since FreeBSD 7 > (I think) and came to the same conclusion. > I did this during 6.x time but got stuck then with 6.x and never went back until last May/June. > It's unfortunate that the builworld time roughly trippled since > 2010 but I guess that's progress and a more powerful system > should fix it. I certainly welcome clang in general, though. > Trippled? Are you sure? I have the feeling it is much worse than this. Was it in 2009 when I could compile world in a few minutes on my quad core. The same machine takes now hours despite having more memory. I run currently my desktop and my notebook on 10. If I stick with my policy, I would stay with 10 until 12 would be available. On the other side, it feels so outdated not to have something like the most current version. Erich