From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 30 01:09:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD3537B401; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skynet.stack.nl (skynet.stack.nl [131.155.140.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663E843F3F; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 01:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dean@dragon.stack.nl) Received: by skynet.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id EE7FE3E27; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:09:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dragon.stack.nl (dragon.stack.nl [2001:610:1108:5011:207:e9ff:fe09:230]) by skynet.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123F13E2D; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:09:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dragon.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 1600) id CBEE95F18B; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:08:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:08:53 +0200 From: Dean Strik To: Paul Robinson Message-ID: <20030630080853.GB42783@dragon.stack.nl> References: <3EFBFEBD.B8772772@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030625214311.00e5e240@localhost> <20030626110336.GW34365@iconoplex.co.uk> <20030626113553.GA53078@packet.org.uk> <20030626122023.GB763@nitro.dk> <20030626124601.GB57378@iconoplex.co.uk> <3EFBFEBD.B8772772@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030627133739.035722d0@localhost> <20030628052710.GK29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030630080252.GK57378@iconoplex.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030630080252.GK57378@iconoplex.co.uk> X-Editor: VIM Rulez! http://www.vim.org/ X-MUD: Outerspace - telnet://mud.stack.nl:3333 X-Really: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-32.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: RMS says: "Use BSD, for goodness sake!" X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:09:00 -0000 Paul Robinson wrote: > There are at most half a dozen apps that require the retention of the > current GPL implementation. The rest can either be rm'ed (nobody uses them), > replaced with BSD licensed versions, or moved out to ports. Awk can be moved > to non-GPL just by MFC'ing a change already in -CURRENT. I'm pretty sure that any of these changes (if so) would be made in 5.x or possibly 6.x, but certainly not 4.x. In case of awk, there are compatibility issues too. I would ask you not to consider 4.x as a reference platform. Use 5.x instead. > The effort to do > all this is relatively small. I'd do it, you wouldn't notice, but I don't > (as you know) have any ability to make those changes. But why the hostility > towards doing it? I know this has the whiff of a bikeshed about it, but to > me it makes sense. Perhaps I'm missing something... No hostility I'm sure but merely the statement that degnuification is not as much of an issue as you'd like it to be. -- Dean C. Strik Eindhoven University of Technology dean@stack.nl | dean@ipnet6.org | http://www.ipnet6.org/ "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." -- Wolfgang Pauli