From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jun 2 8:54:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from postal.linkfast.net (postal.linkfast.net [208.160.105.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1053537B8D4 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:54:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grasshacker@linkfast.net) Received: from leviathan (gh.ws.linkfast.net [208.160.105.41]) by postal.linkfast.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A59739B09; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:54:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00a101bfccaa$d2da4610$2969a0d0@leviathan> From: "gh" To: "Stefan KORONKA" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Why encourage stupid people to use *BSD WAS:Re: IE Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:54:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This is not to say that FreeBSD can't be > > made simpler, but there is a limit, and that limit is more > > complex than > > Windows. > > As a programmer who wrote (argh!) several applications for > windoze, from standard api stuff to com servers, i can't say > that windows is simple .. In fact, I find it more complex > than unix. My personal opinion is that: for windoz, if something > can be made harder, it will be. Opposed to: in unix, if something > can be solved simple, then it is .. > > Of course, for regular user, windoze can be a very friendly (?), > easy-to-start environment. But under this inflexible simplicity, > it is hiding a very huge mess. > I have always felt and understood that. For Windows to be user-friendly it must by design be far more complicated and complex than something that is simple (--enough), that works, that is well designed, well planned (organized, et cetera), and based on a clear, clean frame (ie: UNIX). I have *never* had two installs of Windows 2000, on the exact same box, same hardware, same copy of Windows, end the same. Occasionally, the options in the installation even change. What is worse than that (I suppose) is the hideous beast that is the morphing menu implementation. Damn thing bothers me quite a bit (ie: ``My computer is *alive*!''). This just shows, quite clearly, that the code behind Windows 2000 is *far, far, far, far, far* more complex and (more accurately) more complicated than that for FreeBSD ever would be allowed to become. Dan blah. Dan > But this is just my opinion ... > Stefan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message