From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 07:44:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F529106566B for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16D38FC13 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B551FFC34; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EF24384465; Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:42:22 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: ticso@cicely.de References: <867hm5tl6u.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100612153526.GA3632@acme.spoerlein.net> <20100612163208.GS87112@cicely7.cicely.de> <864oh86tnl.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100612225216.GT87112@cicely7.cicely.de> <86k4q33pk2.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100613160035.GD87112@cicely7.cicely.de> <86fx0q52r0.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100613162841.GE87112@cicely7.cicely.de> <86bpbe4nm8.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20100613220543.GH87112@cicely7.cicely.de> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:42:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20100613220543.GH87112@cicely7.cicely.de> (Bernd Walter's message of "Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:05:44 +0200") Message-ID: <86y6eigiw1.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cleanup for cryptographic algorithms vs. compiler optimizations X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:44:35 -0000 Bernd Walter writes: > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav writes: > > Those are freestanding environments, where printf() and puts() don't > > exist as far as the C standard is concerned. > Most controller environments have some kind of libc. They are still freestanding environments. Can we agree not to discuss this any further until you've read chapters 1 through 5 of the C standard? > Anyway - printf=3D>puts isn't scarying as such, it is more that this > might happen in other cases as well. Yes, it might, and if you run into trouble because of it, it means you've broken the rules somewhere. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no