From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 30 23:04:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07307 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:04:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from snark.thyrsus.com ([192.190.237.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07302 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from esr@snark.thyrsus.com) Received: (from esr@localhost) by snark.thyrsus.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA17590; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 02:08:54 -0400 Message-ID: <19980731020854.A17573@snark.thyrsus.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 02:08:54 -0400 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Adrian Filipi-Martin , Terry Lambert Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, brian@hyperreal.org, dwilde1@ibm.net, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: branding References: <199807310003.RAA05919@usr08.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 In-Reply-To: ; from ADRIAN Filipi-Martin on Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 01:42:08AM -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ADRIAN Filipi-Martin : > > I think, specifically, the release of Kaffe, the first cleanroom > > JAVA implementation is worthy of mention. Despite thier positioning > > as a competitor to my own employer, I'd note Freegate as well, even > > if the numbers aren't there yet. I'd also note the NetBSD based > > "Interceptor" box from Vixie Enterprises, Inc., as well as the > > company that contracts them, the Internet Software Consoritium. When I get paragraphs on these from people in the know, I'll put them in. > Also, with respect to Whistle, the products.html page could > mention one of their numerous awwards. The ommission stands out to those > who know of these awards when the summary above Whistle has just such a > link. In any case, here's the link to Whistle's awards. The "PC > Computing - 1997 MVP BEST NETWORKING HARDWARE WINNER" is a good one to > mention. That's a good idea and I've added it. It will show up in the next update. > One way to greatly improve > the credentials of the site in a qualitative manner rather than > quanitative one, would be to actively seek out those "interesting" > projects and technologies and work them into the site, whether they ask to > be or not. I can't do it. There aren't enough hours in the day. Look, I still have to maintain Sunsite and fetchmail. There's the Trove project. And I'm spending a lot of time on the road (you get one guess why). If I weren't so far behind we'd have a logo and an Open Source branding program by now. > If the big Linux vendors hadn't heard of opensource.org and never > asked to get listed, would they have been listed anyways? Yes, because I already knew about them. The problem is that with the best will in the world, I just don't have time to go off and hunt products that I don't know about that might be eligible. You guys are going to have to feed me BSD stuff if you want to see the things I don't naturally trip over carried on the site. This isn't hostility, it's just press of work. -- Eric S. Raymond Courage is resistance of fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message