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IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.91), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.16), asn: 36646(0.93), country: US(-0.05)]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 08:31:09 -0000 On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 07:24, Scott Bennett wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:11 +0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith > wrote: > > >On Sun, 09 Feb 2020 02:09:59 -0600 > >Scott Bennett wrote: > > > >> The first part of the above, mispunctuated pair of sentences is > >> correct, but the latter part is not. FreeDOS, like PC-DOS and MSDOS > >> before it, is/was not an operating system, but rather a more primitive > >> creature known as a monitor system. > > > > The DOS part of those names is an abbreviation of 'Disc Operating > >System' - clearly at the time they were considered operating systems even > > They may have been considered that by amateurs from the ham radio > community Stopped reading here. The "amateurs from the ham radio community" are (and at least were back in the 70s) much more skilled than you paint them. The first form and shape of "workable" wireless data transmission was Packet Radio, developed by and for hams. 73 de M0TTV. -- Ottavio Caruso