From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 23 5:25:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3292937B412 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 05:25:18 -0700 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 05:25:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Spam problem on the list (Was: Re: URGENT) Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Cc: Ruben de Groot In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Message-ID: <20020623122518970.AAA709@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:19:23 +0200 > From: Ruben de Groot > On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 12:42:18AM -0700, Philip J. Koenig typed: > > > From /etc/motd (what every newbee will read after the first > > > successfull installation): > > > > > > If you still have a question or problem, please take the output of > > > `uname -a', along with any relevant error messages, and email it as a > > > question to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list. > > > > > > I consider this an excellent service provided by FreeBSD. > > > > > > It may be an "excellent service" to some minority of FreeBSD users, but > > we all thought having open SMTP relays was an "excellent service" too, > > back in the innocent years before the explosion of spam. > > > > Already at least one new user that I saw gave up after one day of > > being on this list because of all the junk on it, and I also know > > that some users in certain parts of the world consider it to be a > > major problem to receive large parcels of junk - in many cases this > > costs them real money due to usage costs. In the ultimate irony (or perhaps more accurately, in the ultimate obviousness), the message that immediately followed Ruben's in the last digest, and which took up fully 70% of the entire digest, was yet another spam, complete with a nice big file attachment. I have to laugh when people use the excuse that hub.freebsd.org is a really busy server to argue against cracking down on spam and junk in the lists - when in the last couple of days that same junk has resulted in several extra gigabytes of useless trash being sent all around the world to every member of this list through hub.freebsd.org. -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message