From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 02:00:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF0416A4CE for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 02:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.stack.nl (vaak.stack.nl [131.155.140.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D68F43FE1 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 02:00:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcov@stack.nl) Received: by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 961601F003; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:00:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from toad.stack.nl (toad.stack.nl [2001:610:1108:5010::135]) by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7E51F00E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:00:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by toad.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 816) id 9651F89; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:00:43 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:00:43 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20031107100043.9651F89@toad.stack.nl> From: marcov@stack.nl (Marco van de Voort) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on vaak.stack.nl X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: Re: Kylix in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:00:46 -0000 Hmm, and to the list :) > Rod Person + Terry Lamber wrote: > > On Thursday 06 November 2003 09:09 am, It was written: > > > If you futs with getting Kylix to run under FreeBSD, don't forget the > > > special glibc requirements that some versions of Kylix have. Maybe you > > > should probably simply replace the entire /compat userland with the > > > userland of a distro that Kylix supprorts _with_ kylix extra patches > > > installed? RP: > > Have you tried this? No, I only needed the commandline compiler at the time. It is also only a suggestion for something to look into. I don't have Kylix anymore (it was my employers) > > Since Kylix came out I have tried to get it to run on FreeBSD and > > various Linux distros. A few days ago I got kylix to run on SuSE 8.2 > > (from the kylix newsgroups this seems to be the best distro for it). > > NetBSDs Linux emulation is based on SuSE, isn't it? But, I found no > > postings related to Kylix on NetBSD. My next wondering is would NetBSD > > Linux emu run under FreeBSD and would this run kylix? No idea. > Since all new developement in Kylix is apparently officially > stalled, now would be a good time to do the porting work, since > it's no longer a moving target... Not me, IMHO the fpc (+lazarus) port is more important atm. It generates much simpler apps, but it is native on every 4.x and 5.x with gtk12, and connects to the free dbs without much fuzz :-) Moreover it is not dead. Kylix is dead. Probably both because Borland got in bed with Microsoft because of .NET, and because it was no commercial success. Kylix is a bastard child compared to Delphi, but not _that_ bad, and being the only similar tool in the market should have made up for that. Productivity is apparantly not appreciated under Linux yet, or the demand for small/medium custom client-server apps on linux is still too low.