From owner-freebsd-security Sat Nov 25 22:39:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-security Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA17785 for security-outgoing; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:39:51 -0800 Received: from statler.csc.calpoly.edu (statler-srv.csc.calpoly.edu [129.65.241.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA17777 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:39:45 -0800 Received: (from nlawson@localhost) by statler.csc.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/N8) id WAA24634; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:39:26 -0800 From: Nathan Lawson Message-Id: <199511260639.WAA24634@statler.csc.calpoly.edu> Subject: Re: I wonder how much trouble something like this would be to do? :) To: lyndon@orthanc.com (Lyndon Nerenberg) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:39:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: security@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511241845.KAA27588@multivac.orthanc.com> from "Lyndon Nerenberg" at Nov 24, 95 10:45:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1301 Sender: owner-security@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >>>>> "Jordan" == Jordan K Hubbard writes: > > Jordan> Someone sent me this. It sounds like "one of those really > Jordan> simple engineering ideas that marketing got ahold of and > Jordan> hyped the heck outta" but still - I can think of more than > Jordan> a few MIS managers who'd just eat this up. > > No doubt. I first read about this several (at least three) years > ago in one of the Usenix Security Conference proceedings. The paper > described an implementation that had been done for 4.4BSD. I can > try to dig out a reference if anyone's interested. I believe you are referring to swIPe, an implementation of something like this done by Matt Blaze. Check ftp.csua.berkeley.edu:/pub/cypherpunks/swIPe for details. It is designed for NetBSD and SunOS, but I am sure it's an easy port to FreeBSD. The only bad thing about it is that key management is left up to manual means, but I am sure a quick RSA exchange can be added (along with public key host authentication). > Jordan> The international version is due > Jordan> next month. Prices start at $10,000 on Digital Unix and > Jordan> comes with DEC's own Firewall Unix, $3,600 on PCs. > > Har dee har har har. Yes, who ever said that numbers weren't worth good money? -Nate