From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 11 12:27:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from [132.197.97.45] (h132-197-97-45.gte.com [132.197.97.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2D514A2F for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:27:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ak03@gte.com) Received: (from ak03@localhost) by [132.197.97.45] (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA49818; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:26:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ak03) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19991111201148.A5748@florence.pavilion.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:26:36 -0500 (EST) Organization: GTE Laboratories Inc. From: "Alexander N. Kabaev" To: Josef Karthauser Subject: RE: Severe problems with softupdates. Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I almost lost my /var partition with exactly the same sequence of events. My desktop mashine failed to wake up from power-save mode and had to be rebooted with the reset button. When system was booting, /var filesystem was not mounted due to the massive amount of 'can't find inode' errors. fsck -y run fine, but I found that absolutely all subdirs were disconnected from the filesystem root and they ended in the lost+found directory. On 11-Nov-99 Josef Karthauser wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm still trying to recover my laptop from a really severe filesystem > crash using softupdates. The machine hung due to a problem with > power managment so it needed a reboot. Now fsck won't clean up without > complaining bitterly about 'softupdate' problems, ultimately coming to > a halt with a 'can't find inode XXXX' message. I've confirmed with fsdb > that the inode in question does exist, so why is fsck complaining? Clearing > the inode in question allows fsck to proceed, and ultimately land on another > inode that exists, but it "can't find". > > I've searched the lists and this message appear to reference the same > problem: > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:58:31 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" > To: Mark Powell > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: How to fix cant load /kernel ???? Also soft updates fs > corruption. > Message-ID: > In-Reply-To: > > I'm running -current; I don't know what Mark was running. > > Kirk mentioned that he was confident that softupdates was 'safe', but I've > had files (from a previous crash - recovered from) in lost+found that I > didn't touch, and no-way should have become disconnected from the file > system - they weren't even in buffercache at the time of the crash. > > I believe that Brian has also had the same problems (at FreeBSDCon). > > Can people put their hands up if they believe that they've experienced this > so that we can determine whether there's a deeper softupdates problem that > we're ignoring on faith? > > Also if anyone knows how to recover from it I'd be very grateful to know. > My /usr partition is uncleanable (although I can 'mount -f' it!! nasty!!). > > Joe. > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, > joe@tao.org.uk] > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Alexander N. Kabaev Date: 11-Nov-99 Time: 15:19:33 ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message