From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 4 01:17:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52382EB for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 01:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A8A189 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 01:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Alfreds-MacBook-Pro-9.local (c-67-180-208-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.180.208.218]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 074A31A3D7B for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:17:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50E62DAE.4060809@mu.org> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:17:34 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question on bhyve + 9-stable References: <50E06701.7070409@mu.org> <50E07436.4040105@freebsd.org> <50E24D2F.4000604@mu.org> <50E4AEE1.2080505@freebsd.org> <50E4B040.1040809@mu.org> <50E4B491.9010804@freebsd.org> <50E4BA7F.3060103@mu.org> <50E62AAB.4050906@callfortesting.org> In-Reply-To: <50E62AAB.4050906@callfortesting.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:17:49 -0000 On 1/3/13 5:04 PM, Michael Dexter wrote: > On 1/2/13 2:53 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> While the directions you and the rest of the bhyve developers put >> together were clear, comprehensive and well written... they still are a >> bit daunting for your average user... > > There-in is the challenge. You can try bhyve with simply a special > snapshot and yes, user's will soon have it by default. Creating guests > however opens up a can of worms of opportunities to tailor them to > your needs. jail(8) is the same in this regard. I am however talking > to Kris about integrating bhyve into PC-BSD's Warden so that there can > be at least one turn-key experience out there. > Yes, but please in no way take my comments as a reflection on the bhyve project. The only issues I had were just due to that it has not been integrated into head yet. I guess we may be stuck due to binutils for a while? I am not sure. -Alfred