From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue May 30 22:14:51 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA15063 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 1995 22:14:51 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA15052 ; Tue, 30 May 1995 22:14:49 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Julian Elischer cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [On the new Install] In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 30 May 95 20:29:51 PDT." <199505310329.UAA21742@ref.tfs.com> Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 22:14:48 -0700 Message-ID: <15051.801897288@freefall.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I'd more want a message saying "This is not being written yet.. > it's safe to play with this screen" > or something.. Hmmm. > I think you are wrong.. > it assumes you have EITHER the correct size or correct number of cylinders.. > for IDE and SCSI, you DO have the correcdt size anyhow.. Huh? It doesn't assume anything of the kind! It simply lets you edit all three fields as one string. And hey, I ain't changin' it so there's not much point in arguing over it anyway! :-) If you feel like working something up that you think is better suited then I'm not at all adverse to looking over/adopting your code, it's just not important enough to me to do anything about it personally! > > Huh?? You mean OK and Cancel, right? > (whatever.. the point is you can't GET to OK on some of them) Well, I _am_ constrained somewhat by the objects that libdialog gives me! In this particular case, I have no other way of knowing when the user wants to leave the menu! When you're selecting an item and hitting return, what you're REALLY doing is selecting the OK button (you'll notice that the cursor stays over it after the arrow keys have brought you to some item of choice). If I want to leave, rather than make a choice, then I have to use Cancel. Sorry, but again - if you want to see some other behavior, you'll have to make the (reliable!) hacks to libdialog yourself and submit them. I have zero interest in making changes of that sort at this late stage! > CANCEL IN EVERY OTHER APPLICATION ON EARTH means 'leave it untouched!' See above. > no, you are seeing it as a person who knows what it's doing, > and I'm seeing it as a new user.. I'm also seeing it as a person who knows what's easily _possible_, so kindly try to take a little of that into account. I'm not wholly blind to good end-user-oriented suggestions, believe me, but if a lot of the things you're asking for were EASY then you may rest assured that I'd have done them already! To return the accusation, I think you're not thinking enough like a FreeBSD hacker yourself, and you're not making informed suggestions based on a reasonable analysis of the tools available. Please go look at libdialog (and heck, sysinstall) a little more before you get too far out with the suggestions, please! > no, 99 for example is MACH.. you don't print that, even though old fdisk > knows about it (came from MACH after-all) I know I just watched it again.. Well, I'll take it up with Poul. I thought that we were handling all known types, sorry! > let me edit a table you can slurp back in... Ok! > > No problem. Just (M)ount the entries rather than creating them. > oh that's so obvious!, surely you can make it more inscrutible? Like I said, there WILL be a help file there that makes it pretty obvious! If the user is not willing to even read what doc is there (when it's made available) then I truly have no interest in bending over backwards to accomodate them. There has to be some give and take, and I have the sneaking suspicion that you yourself didn't read ANY of the documentation files! :-) Jordan