From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Feb 22 11:47:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D084037B401 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:47:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A6043FBD for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14870; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:47:39 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: chuck odonnell , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Verizon DSL & FreeBSD? Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:47:39 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030221182254.5687.qmail@web20305.mail.yahoo.com> <200302211031.15370.kstewart@owt.com> <20030221201107.GA10028@bus.net> In-Reply-To: <20030221201107.GA10028@bus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200302221147.39101.kstewart@owt.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 21 February 2003 12:11 pm, chuck odonnell wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:31:15AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: > > I also don't user Verizon for an ISP because they don't permit > > local servers. > > i'm guessing you're talking about the inconvenient way some Cable/DSL > ISPs block incoming connections on common server ports (25, 80)? Actually, it is a clause for termination on most networks that cover=20 homes. When Code Red hit, I was told by my old ISP that I was in=20 violation of their TOS. I was seeing x,000 hits a day and when it got=20 that high, they noticed. When several of the search engines start=20 indexing my system at the same time, the hit count also goes up. The=20 old ISP also told me that I could run a casual web server when I signed=20 up. Their TOS says you have to have it in writing, which I didn't. When=20 the hit count reached some rate, I appeared to have crossed their magic=20 barrier separating casual-personal and business oriented. Verizon locally doesn't use a ppp based setup. My local ISP provides two=20 static IPs and up to 20 via dhcp. When my DSL line doesn't work, I call=20 Verizon's 888...1234 # and they work with me while I am on the=20 telephone, which has been typically 2-4 am. If they can't fix it that=20 way, Verizon tells me it will be fixed by 7 pm that day and a repairman=20 shows up.=20 The people on the East side of the Columbia River have Qwest and in the=20 past, they had the reputation of taking days on simple repairs. I don't=20 have any idea how they deal with repairs at this point because the=20 computer oriented people that I knew have all moved out of the area.=20 The only person left doesn't know how to get into his bios. When he=20 gets back from 3-weeks in M=E9xico, we are going to work on that :). I=20 think that is similar to not letting one of the kids drive alone until=20 they can prove they can change a flat tire. > > usually this is only a real annoyance because you can't set up a mail > server for your incoming SMTP email. if you have access to an outside > Internet server, and you run postfix on it -- you can route incoming > mail through the outside server, and using the postfix transport > table forward the mail to a sendmail or postfix instance running on a > high port on your internal server. works great! I use kmail on kde-3. My ISP is Linux based and is running SpamAssasin.=20 I can use it and not have to figure out how to make everything run. It=20 all depends on the irritation factor. When it reaches some point, I=20 will do what you are doing. > > ...or like you said, just don't use that ISP :) That is always a choice.=20 It appears I have missed a number of comments on this because I wasn't=20 cc'ed. Kent =2D-=20 Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message