From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 3 15:41:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F164114EB3; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:41:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id XAA00957; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:52:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA58615; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:40:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199906032140.XAA58615@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: a two-level port system? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <10787.928406989@peewee> from Jordan Hubbard at "Jun 3, 1999 3:49:49 am" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan Hubbard) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:40:13 +0200 (CEST) Cc: eivind@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, dscheidt@enteract.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Jordan Hubbard wrote ... > > of useless. It's like doing uphill testing of a fat guy on a bicycle > > against a Lamborghini - you "know" the result beforehand. > > Unfortunately, what you're probably not aware of is that the fat guy > also has a JATO unit strapped to the back of his bicycle. Don't make > assumptions. :-) You've been reading too much of the Darwin Awards web site ;-) > > If extraction of the ports collection (not files in general, just the > > ports collection) is slower using soft updates than using "async" > > mode, then it seems some elevator sorting isn't working the way it > > Extraction of ALL the distribution bits is faster with async than it > is with soft updates. To put it another, more practical, way - if you > timed the installation with a stopwatch, with or without ports, the > async policy would win and Kirk has even pointed that out in other > emails. Given that, I have to honestly wonder why you've been arguing > so strongly for soft updates being used in the installation. Maybe I'm missing the very obvious: I've always considered (and lots of people who first saw it had the same judgement..) the FreeBSD installation to be fast. Even if you could gain, say, a 10% speedup overall, would that be worth the time/effort? Just playing the devil's (daemon's?) advocate here... | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message