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Subject: Re: Anyone know of any software for playing Video CDs? 
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>From The Desk Of "Jordan K. Hubbard" :
> > Let me make it plain . I can't tell you because along the way I signed
> > an NDA with Omnimedia . Now if you talk nicely to Brian Litzinger he
>               ^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Argh.  So we're back to hardware assist again?  I guess we've passed

The answer is that you don't need hardware assist now days.
The way to bypass the Philips Dragonian licensing is to ask
Brian to write a library api for the code he has to decode
CDI and VideoCD.  Once that such a library starts streaming
an MPEG system stream you can feed it to anything a file for instance
or have a program such as mtv play it back. 


Currently, mtv does not have such a hook however it should not be
hard at all for the author to implement.

	Amancio


> what can be reasonably discussed in such an oblique fashion so I'll
> just go away now with the conclusion that no, it can't be done and
> maybe if you had Amancio's Special Secret Setup you could do it but we
> don't so we can't. :-)
> 
> Either that or we've hit the language barrier again, I don't know
> which.  All I *do* know is that I'm now more confused about this than
> when we started, so I'll quit while I'm behind and put all these
> stupid video CDs back on the shelf, to wait for DVD. ;-)
> 
> 					Jordan